tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post4973270736637776412..comments2023-03-24T03:08:24.129-07:00Comments on Performance Protector: Thunderbird 3: Is It Really All Yours?Perf Protectorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07382067637496509489noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-51001755733332949152011-06-22T10:39:19.160-07:002011-06-22T10:39:19.160-07:00This definitely helped my situation (on osx using ...This definitely helped my situation (on osx using 10 imap email accounts). But also very suspect were two add-on, Remove Duplicates, and Send Later. when I turned off global indexing, synchronizing, and these two add-ons I go the cpu usage down from ~30% to 3%. saving me at least an hour of battery life.<br /><br />-PaulPaul Faunikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13566914339884996989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-59255791523495724532010-11-24T00:36:56.519-08:002010-11-24T00:36:56.519-08:00This is how I finally solved my performance issues...This is how I finally solved my performance issues. I have a few google apps imap accounts in Thunderbird 3. Both have excess of 80,000 emails in the Inbox and about 50,000 in the Sent.<br />I tried making new profiles, compacting, turning off Global Search, using gmail to archive a bunch of the emails, getting rid of Lightning calendar. The problem was switching from one folder to another would take minutes and usually just freeze TB altogether.<br />Solution: change the Folder view from Unified to All Folders. That one simple thing is what finally did it. GRRRRR.nilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08023886780941447410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-65056648473368986222010-11-11T05:28:12.026-08:002010-11-11T05:28:12.026-08:00Nice post, I'm running Thunderbird with IMAP o...Nice post, I'm running Thunderbird with IMAP on kubuntu here, and it kept running with full CPU load and crashing almost instantly until I turned off Global indexingUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16312246767102541078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-41832445544717872622010-09-05T10:10:39.600-07:002010-09-05T10:10:39.600-07:00Good analysis, thanks.
Very wrong decision of T...Good analysis, thanks. <br /><br />Very wrong decision of Thunderbird team to use such default values in new software release. I wonder whether there are other hidden wrong decision in this process of 'upgrading'.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06560226036895009215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-71780689108787422932010-08-20T12:04:07.383-07:002010-08-20T12:04:07.383-07:00One more thing mates. Don' forget the Compact ...One more thing mates. Don' forget the Compact function in order to restore to the old size. :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00898061121378260983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-22113076759492284132010-08-18T22:11:08.418-07:002010-08-18T22:11:08.418-07:00I operate more than 10 imap mail accounts and my P...I operate more than 10 imap mail accounts and my PC was continuously reading/writing to disk which was getting really annoying probably contributed to occasional performance and hanging issues. I still sync most of these accounts locally but it appears disabling global indexing has immediately resolved my problem. Thank you very much. JohnUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04139092591723062369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-20545335450589696692010-08-15T06:45:53.412-07:002010-08-15T06:45:53.412-07:00Thank you for saving me time and money. If they mu...Thank you for saving me time and money. If they must include global indexing it should be switched off by default and the user should be warned it will eat up CPU. I saw an immediate drop in my idle CPU usage from about 10-15$ down to 2-4%Sammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07903727539254072778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-76592680810553172072010-08-10T19:00:28.385-07:002010-08-10T19:00:28.385-07:00I have been using TB for quite a while on my linux...I have been using TB for quite a while on my linux boxes. I have not noticed a slower systems, nor have seen TB using more memory and processor use. I have one gmail account at 130MB with 1197 msgs in INBOX, 4 other IMAP boxes for it, I do have Indexing turned off, I am syncronizing all messages and boxes.<br /> I also have a gmail box with 177 msgs in the INBOX and 4 other IMAP boxes. Two other accounts, one with 2.3G and 34 different IMAP folders all syncronized. The other with around 20G, and over 200 boxes.<br /> I have all my mailboxes syncronized, and have the indexing turned off.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17923920817611352494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-32406276525557977172010-08-06T21:53:11.212-07:002010-08-06T21:53:11.212-07:00I've been using TB3 for a while now on Windows...I've been using TB3 for a while now on Windows7 and its been stellar. The indexing feature is really handy since it lets me global search through ALL my accounts (I have 3 IMAP and 1 gmail) in no time.<br /><br />As for CPU, when its just running in the background, its almost always at 0 (don't have decimal precision in task manager). When I'm doing email related work, yes the CPU spikes up, but only for a second or two, which I can totally deal with.<br /><br />Oh, as for the offline feature being turned on by default, I don't think you are even considering people located outside the US (and maybe other developed nations), where Internet is not always as reliable, not always on, and not unlimited. So, the initial download is a problem, yes, but then being able to have all my messages available offline makes it worth the initial wait.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-3927657549808228402010-08-06T16:01:08.532-07:002010-08-06T16:01:08.532-07:00I use Thunderbird 3.0.6 with Xubuntu and the "...I use Thunderbird 3.0.6 with Xubuntu and the "Enable Global search and Indexer" was unchecked by default here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-35455474536402085592010-08-06T11:33:45.613-07:002010-08-06T11:33:45.613-07:00I have TB3 on the same machine as my IMAP server. ...I have TB3 on the same machine as my IMAP server. I have the spam filtering on (though smapbayes catches most of it before) and I have about 3 rules for highlighting messages. When mail arrives, I get full-core CPU usage for about 3 seconds, and the TB UI is unresponsive (i.e., can't type in message composition windows). I turned off global indexing already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-83447502331462323222010-08-06T09:46:38.169-07:002010-08-06T09:46:38.169-07:00Some folks have posted that they have some huge nu...Some folks have posted that they have some huge number of installations to babysit, and that upgrading tb to 3.x would cost them millions, and that the world would end, etc.<br /><br />If you are babysitting these workstations, can't you just set the configuration to disable these features as part of the upgrade?<br /><br />I've used tb for years and years and when I went to move my profile dir from one machine to another, I realized it was HUGE (this was before the 3.x upgrade). I deleted the content directories in order to move the profile and noticed that tb was re-fetching everything. I did a bit of research, found that it was caching everything locally, and disabled mailbox synchronization. Problem solved.<br /><br />Yes, I might be more willing to research and troubleshoot a problem such as this than a lay user, but I'd like to stress two points:<br /><br />1. These "problems" aren't new<br />2. These "problems" aren't unsolvable<br /><br />Finally, the Mozilla team (whether it be Firefox, Thunderbird, or their other fine products) is constantly under fire by a huge population of Internet trolls, Microsoft fanboys, and frustrated users. It's not surprising that they take a while to get back to everybody's complaints. Yes, these features impact performance, but their analysis was that the performance penalty (which is temporary, remember) was worth the added benefit.<br /><br />Just my two cents.<br /><br />-chrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-52809365347183017262010-08-06T07:52:49.760-07:002010-08-06T07:52:49.760-07:00Man!
Do we "really" need this potions?,...Man!<br /><br />Do we "really" need this potions?, at least in my office everyone creates folders to organize everything and it's "very" strange for someone to search for something in the mail (as it might be far easier to just ask someone who has the information at hand)... on the other hand... keeping a copy synced in the local drive when the IMAP works fine as it is doesn't have much sense unless you want to be able to work offline (for example if you have a laptop) in which case you should be able to optionally set this option.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-84662059976401098572010-08-06T06:48:17.253-07:002010-08-06T06:48:17.253-07:00We have some hundreds of users of 3 without any is...We have some hundreds of users of 3 without any issues.<br /><br />Anonymous, but not a troll. It works fine - but then we don't have any local mail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-64205635743446554522010-08-06T05:53:14.016-07:002010-08-06T05:53:14.016-07:00hello,
I've also noticed that indexing takes ...hello,<br /><br />I've also noticed that indexing takes a long time at first<br />I've been using thunderbird 2.0 for years<br />I've tried TB3.0 but it was missing the local search I was used to so I directly jumped from 2.0 to 3.1<br />I've completely migrated to TB3.1 and I'm pretty satisfied with the upgrade.<br />I was already downloading all messages with TB2.0 but TB3.1 does it better.<br />After the indexing which takes a long time, it runs ok<br />also TB3.1 can see mail coming directly via server filter to sub folder much better than TB2.0<br />Working with tab for mail is also good.<br />It's not perfect but I still think people should upgrade to 3.1 so that thunderbid developpers can concentrate ressources on the next version, TB2.0 being very old code from a maintenance/security point of view.<br /><br />It would be good to have a light mode for thunderbird which would allow TB to be used for example in a mobile environment maximising ressources used on the server.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-60795820337079796692010-08-06T04:34:46.574-07:002010-08-06T04:34:46.574-07:00I have been Using TB3 since its release and noted ...I have been Using TB3 since its release and noted all kinds of bugs, random crashes especially. They have been making it more stable and it does not crash as much anymore but there are some other issues. I have not authorized my company employees to upgrade from the TB2 that they use because I fear this would cause productivity problems for my company. I hope they fix it someday because it is my favorite mail app.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-11705591599305454002010-08-06T04:20:02.829-07:002010-08-06T04:20:02.829-07:00I would like to see Mozilla's response to this...I would like to see Mozilla's response to this article as it really is as serious as you make it out to be.<br /><br />I have an entire company of people all using Thunderbird 2. There is no way we could possibly handle all these users upgrading to Thunderbird 3, so our choice is to either wait for Mozilla to do something about it, or find another client (of which there are very few reasonable choices).<br /><br />What do we do, Mozilla?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-92024447116550623052010-08-06T02:24:53.569-07:002010-08-06T02:24:53.569-07:00Biggest issue I have with TB3 is that IMAP downloa...Biggest issue I have with TB3 is that IMAP download is on by default.<br />While it isn't a big problem on my private pc, it made it almost impossible to log into my account at work, because the quota there is limited.<br />TB3 had done a great job filling that up...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-67064535379076599332010-08-06T00:46:43.711-07:002010-08-06T00:46:43.711-07:00my comp was slow for one day when i upgraded.
and ...my comp was slow for one day when i upgraded.<br />and really guys. did you read the manual for tb3? the faq? <br />it's clearly explained inthere why it does things, and why it might slow down initially.<br />personally I have not experienced anything beyond that initial indexing.<br />http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/FAQ+Upgrading+Thunderbird+2+to+3<br />for those not capable of pushing F1 in TBimonseihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14154177437062765895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-22180025087527620702010-08-06T00:31:34.177-07:002010-08-06T00:31:34.177-07:00Am running Thunderbird 3.1.1, one IMAP account wit...Am running Thunderbird 3.1.1, one IMAP account with 2.8 GB mail, on Fedora 13 and i have not noticed the slow down. Specs: 64 bit, 4 GB ram, Dual Corewhynnotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-27182766645662460032010-08-06T00:28:56.743-07:002010-08-06T00:28:56.743-07:00I didn't noticed any performance degradation. ...I didn't noticed any performance degradation. But the message synchronization had cost me lots of money, since I use mobile wireless network to access the Internet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-81947279699391782742010-08-05T23:43:48.197-07:002010-08-05T23:43:48.197-07:00I DID see a performance issue. I already did as yo...I DID see a performance issue. I already did as you have suggested. You just confirmed it.<br /><br />Thank you taking the time, where as Mozilla couldnt be bothered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-27293248371799230872010-08-05T23:40:52.357-07:002010-08-05T23:40:52.357-07:00This so inspires me to be pissed off again.
I'...This so inspires me to be pissed off again.<br /><br />I've been writing so many bug reports against TB3 -- it's so crapified....it never should have been released -- they don't have things working from TB2 *STILL*, that I used every day. I tried upgrading for the 3rd time a few weeks ago -- trying to get used to it --- but I wondered today why logging off my DOMAIN server took over an hour today -- It had 1.8G of local IMAP mail stored from my *server* -- which I keep on my server so I won't waste space on my Windows machine!!! IDIOTS!... I have about 150 folders -- all were on server, except for a few commonly used folders. <br /><br />I wish they would dump 3.0 and go back to working on 2.0.<br /><br />If they had done 3.0 as *totally* compatible with 2.0 and let users turn on features as they wished, it might have grown into a usable product. But instead, they have tried to force users to do things their way without our input!<br /><br />Idiots! Idjots and Idiots!<br />Why do large companies start acting so *paternal* and ignoring their users and instead start thinking they know what's best for their users better than their users.Astarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02292894106683965237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-58304862538418184112010-08-05T22:51:12.070-07:002010-08-05T22:51:12.070-07:00I wondered why my Thunderbird install at work was ...I wondered why my Thunderbird install at work was running super slow for about a month now. Now I have some indications what happened.<br /><br />My work machine had about 1 GB in pop emails on a P4 2.8 Northwood with 1 GB of DDR. It finally pushed me over the edge and running on my x200s only (U9400 cpu at least has two cores, in case one gets pegged).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769741344880348586.post-66714383566495492212010-08-05T22:29:59.185-07:002010-08-05T22:29:59.185-07:00I have had excellent success overall with Thunderb...I have had excellent success overall with Thunderbird. I really like how I can take my Linux ~/.thunderbird folder in its entirety and copy it to a Windows system and put that folder in the right place, right name and run the program and all my stuff is there - mail, accounts, passwords et al. I always find portability to be important. When the upgrade occurred from 2.x to 3.x, it told me about the indexing and the downloading of IMAP and I specified to not do those things (well, the imap sync I left for a little while and quickly decided I did not want the local storage consumption - this is why I have IMAP email at a hosted web site to begin with) and all continues to be well. I am a very happy Thunderbird user for years now. While I read this article with interest and curiosity, it in no way compels me to even consider moving to something else. Thanks for listening ;-)<br />KASAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com